User talk:Benoit Rochon

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Please contact me on : fr user Antaya

Requested todos[edit]

Hi Antaya,

I have implemented two of your todo list requests:

  • Unlock main page
  • Parserfunctions

I have not implemented:

  • Images of any kind. It seems the interwiki linking of images is not as straight forward as I had hoped. It seems additional PHP/JSON modules are required, a change I am not willing to make at this time. We are trying to keep this Wiki as simple and stable as possible at this stage. As things progress and money is raised we can consider a hosting option that is more flexible and robust.
  • Correct the SEO in order to manage URLs like "../index.php/..". I have not made this change yet as it has implications with our Interwiki link from Meta. I recognize it is less than desirable for our Google rankings and the mod_rewrite URLs do have a much more aesthetic appearance. However, this type of change would be best made as part of a larger change in the future.

Thank again for your suggestions and feedback. Alan.ca 13:29, 13 February 2011 (MST)

Hello Alan, first thank you for your warm welcome! I'm really happy that finally Wikimedia Canada exists. I didn't really followed the development of WM.ca in recent months, because I'm a webmaster and I had several contracts lately, so no much time for Wikis!
By the way, I read on my talk page that you are looking for a better host? My brother and I have servers in Montreal for twelve years, and we would be delighted to host Wikimedia Canada for free. That would be my way of contributing as members! Let me know what you think. Antaya 14:58, 15 February 2011 (MST)


Sidebar[edit]

Hi, Antaya! I'm glad to see that you found your way to our new website. I translated the sidebar links (on the left side of the page) into French for anyone who has the preferences set to a French interface. Let me know if I made a mistake in the translation. There is an extension that would make the sidebar links appear in French for anonymous visitors who are looking at a French page, and also put the language link in the sidebar. However, as Alan said, we might not want to add too many extensions right away. --Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 17:29, 14 February 2011 (MST)

Salut Jeffrey! Nice to "see" you again. Yes I was able to find my way here, and sorry for being silent for a while, I was in a little rush for my own websites! Bravo pour les traductions dans le menu, elles sont parfaites! There's no mistakes at all, your French is good! >See you later. Antaya 15:44, 15 February 2011 (MST)

Template:Lang[edit]

Bravo pour Template:Lang, elle fonctionne très bien! J'ai essayé de le déplacer en dessous du titre de la page car les gens risquent de ne le voir pas dans le coin loin. Malheureusement, les liens sur le sidebar toujours aller à la page en anglais. Je pense que ce sera beaucoup plus difficile à fixer, mais j'essaie. Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2011 (MST)

Salut Jeffrey, c'est très délicat de ta part d'écrire dans ma langue maternelle, j'apprécie beaucoup! Et merci de me féliciter sur le modèle:Lang. Pour le Sidebar, je peux t'aider si tu veux. J'ai demandé à Alan de me donner des droits d'édition pour travailler plus facilement, mais il semble ne pas approuver. Pourtant, j'ai mon propre site web dont le future update sera un logiciel WikiMedia : LePouceux.com... c'est un logiciel que je très connais bien. Bref, vu que je n'ai pas de droits admin, je vais créer un tableau avec tous les liens MediaWiki que tu devras créer pour faire fonctionner le Sidebar en deux langues. Cordialement. Antaya 22:24, 26 February 2011 (MST)
I put the link in the upper right corner because under the title it often entered into conflict with other system messages and the breadcrumbs. Anyway, generally on other websites, the change of languages are in the right corner of page... Francophones are accustomed to look there! And eventually, we will install an extension for MultiLanguageManager. Thanks! Antaya (talk) 14:28, 28 February 2011 (EST)
I didn't know that the upper right was the normal place for language links outside of mediawikis, sorry. I have used MultiLanguageManager before and it works well; I look forward to the sidbar links working in French. Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 15:57, 1 March 2011 (EST)

Assorted ideas[edit]

It's good to see you active in improving this site. I hope the best for it. You've been around almost as long as I; that's evidence of some degree of patience. I still have reservations about the way it happened, but I also have to concede that unless someone acted boldly nothing was going to get done. I hope that Alan acts soon to give you the admin bit; I think he has been away travelling in the last couple of weeks. I'm still a resident luddite who finds most of what happens in the templates completely incomprehensible.

I also look forward to an expansion of the Board of Directors. We're at a time when a lot of key decisions and policies need to be developed by active directors. Zana hasn't even seen fit to get on the Wiki.

I saw your comments about offering to host this website. In the short term I am happy with leaving the site where it is. I don't think that this site will be a high traffic site. I expect that it will play a role for Wikimedia Canada comparable to the role that Meta plays for the WMF. Alan may have some thoughts on this. We will still need to develop other sites to host substantive content. That's where we will need a more serious consideration of hosting capacities; once programmes are functioning and funding is more clear I'm certain that the needs will far exceed what is reasonably available through free hosting. Copyright issues are not a problem for the operation of this site, but they could become so for the other ones. Since we would want our content to be covered by Canadian law, all servers must also be in Canada. I would be very concerned about a retail ISP in Canada whose service is really through a US wholesaler.

Wikilivres is currently run by Yann Forget, a French citizen currently living in India where his wife is from. It started on a server in France, but it now on a Canadian server to take advantage of the shorter copyright term available in Canada. He has expressed desire in the past that he would like to be dealing with a different ISP. This may have something to do with the costs which I understand to be in the %90 monthly range; I suspect that the financial help from others has been very limited. Is there a better way of handling this? I can foresee someday folding this into Wikimedia Canada's operation but not until we have a functioning charitable organization. Eclecticology 03:10, 27 February 2011 (MST)

Formating[edit]

You have done an excellent job with the graphic layout on the meeting page [1]. I have seperated out the past meetings. Wondering if you could format that section similarly to the one above? Thanks --Doc James 23:51, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Done! Antaya (talk) 14:54, 1 March 2011 (EST)
And by the way Welcome aboard.--Doc James 14:34, 2 March 2011 (EST)
Thanks, I'm sooo glad to be here, you can't imagine how! Antaya (talk) 15:16, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Si vous redessinez la page d'accueil, vous devez savoir que je veux ajouter un endroit pour des nouvelles comme sur Meta, donc laissez une place pour cela. --Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 23:39, 3 March 2011 (EST)

I also think that the main page should be something that people want to visit often, like Wikipedia's main page, so I moved a lot of the overview information to a new About us page. --Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2011 (EST)
Your edit on {{menu}} worked; thanks! I'm thinking of getting rid of the sidebar except for "toolbox" and "this wiki" because your menu looks better, it works better, and I think it looks silly to have the same links twice on every page. We just have to make sure the template goes on every page from now on. --Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 17:10, 5 March 2011 (EST)
Update: If the sidebar starts working right, I don't know which we should keep. Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 17:13, 5 March 2011 (EST)

I like the new layout. --Doc James 10:26, 6 March 2011 (EST)

The timezone template is cool. I see that you tried to make Saskatchewan work differently, but I think that you don't have it quite right yet. It should match Manitoba in the winter and match Alberta in the summer, but when I experiment with it, it always matches Alberta. Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 13:49, 6 March 2011 (EST)
Thanks guys! This {{timezones}} gave me an headache, I work on this all night! It's not perfect yet because there's no center command in MediaWiki software to manage time offsets! I had to create my own command, and it can vary from a year to another. Example : IF MeetingDate is > than Week-11 but < than Week-46 = Daylight - SaskatchewanDiff = HugeBunchOfMistakes!!! Anyway I'm pretty proud of it! I'll fix my baby progressively, when mistakes comes up. Thanks again for your encouragement. Antaya (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2011 (EST)
Couldn't you just add a parameter called "daylight-savings=yes" rather than trying to teach it when the dates are? Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 15:50, 6 March 2011 (EST)
Yes that would the easiest way! But why make simple when it can be complicated? :P hehe... If I can't make it proprely, I'll add a param; but what I would like is to make it as automatic as possible. We'll see if I can fix it. Antaya (talk) 15:54, 6 March 2011 (EST)
I think I fixed the Saskatchewan's time offsets. When you have a second, can you make a couple tests to see if this is what you meant? Thank you. Antaya (talk) 19:20, 6 March 2011 (EST)
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Spam[edit]

The recent spam linking all seems to have a structural sameness. Can you tell if it's all coming from the same IP or IP range? Eclecticology 14:46, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

Is it possible to patch into Wikipedia's spam blocking mechanisms? Ie there black lists and there lists of previously blocked IPs? Also is there a way to figure out the IP all these users come from and block that range? --Doc James 02:01, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
Our spammers are at it again. It looks like today's installation did nothing. Would it help to use Captchas for new account creation? Eclecticology 23:56, 15 March 2011 (EDT)

Meeting[edit]

While the layout looks great they are a little hard to edit and follow. Do to technical issues not everyone is going to be able to attend the first AGM as stated and only paid confirmed members. After this meeting other will be able to listen in once we secure a better teleconference technique. Can you update our page to reflect this? Thanks --Doc James 18:18, 15 March 2011 (EDT)

New main page[edit]

I assume that the new main page is your doing? I think it is excellent. Good to have both languages properly represented as equals. --Doc James 23:22, 17 March 2011 (EDT)

Actually, it is both our doing!!!! Alan.ca 00:02, 18 March 2011 (EDT)
Excellent well done to both of you. --Doc James 00:35, 18 March 2011 (EDT)

Link to conversation[edit]

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-ca/2010-November/thread.html

Google Custom Search[edit]

Hi Benoit, I set up Google Custom Search test. It's $100 per year without ads, this demo has ads. Let me know what you think, we could integrate it to replace the media wiki search.Alan.ca 13:21, 18 March 2011 (EDT)

http://www.wikimedia.ca/customsearch.htm

Project pages[edit]

I've been revising the English text on the various project pages. Let me know if these don't say what you wanted to say. WTF does the BANQ mean by "démocratisation d'access". Literally it means having the people decide the rules of access, but I can't imagine that they really mean that. I'm also careful about wording that would suggest that anything we write on this or any future site we control would fall under anything but Canadian law. I've made the links to the article in the other language bigger and bolder; it might be better included in the template. Thee are important links that should be more prominent and visible. Eclecticology 06:31, 19 March 2011 (EDT)

I don't know if those flags are an improvement. The British flag suggests the POV that we're a lot of raving royalists. Eclecticology 15:06, 19 March 2011 (EDT)

Thanks...[edit]

...for the welcome. CambridgeBayWeather 22:59, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
...Merci beaucoup, trop --Wilfredor 09:27, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

Project discussion[edit]

Wondering if it would be best to have a single discussion page for each potential project and people can just use which ever language they feel most comfortable with? On google they have these little translate tags. Would it be possible to add these for people who have difficulty understanding which ever language? --Doc James 00:16, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

I'm sure that I know what you mean with "translate tags". Antaya 10:46, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

Projects[edit]

--Doc James 07:40, 2 April 2011 (EDT) We are not waiting to become an official chapter before launching projects. I am currently working on a research project. Thus I returned it to they way it was. Lets discuss this on the talk page further [2] . --Doc James 07:24, 2 April 2011 (EDT)

University clubs[edit]

It appears that two different things are being discussed here. The links are to faculty clubs. What we wish to encourage is the creation of student Wikipedia clubs such as was created at McGill. Thus I have clarified this and removed some of the links Projects/University_clubs.

Glam[edit]

Bonjour,

Je réponds ici à votre message à propos des Glams laissé sur ma page WP.

Je ne suis pas un grand spécialiste des Glams (on ne doit pas utiliser cet angliscisme au Québec :). Donc je vous mettrai en contact avec le groupe Glam de Wikimédia France qui vous donnera une réponse plus précise.

L'approche des institutions en France s'est faite progressivement et a permis d'établir différents partenariats. D'abord avec le muséum de Toulouse. La force, des un des conservateurs était Wikipédien et il y a un groupe très actif de Wikipédiens/Wikimédiens sur cette ville dont la présidente de l'association, Adrienne Alix. Ensuite nous avons eu un partenariat avec la BnF. La encore, un atout, un des membres du conseil d'administration de Wikimédia France est conservateur de bibliothèque. Enfin nous avons je crois bénéficier d'une reconnaissance en France depuis 1 ou 2 ans de Wikipédia qui auparavant été peu considéré par les institutions culturelles (et en retard sur les autres pays).

Cela nous a permis d'organiser les Rencontres Wikimédia 2010 et d'assoir notre "crédibilité". Cela a débouché sur un "Wikipédien en résidence" (Benoit Evellin alias Trizek sur les projets) pendant 6 mois au château de Versailles et nous a donné une couverture médiatique dont nos activités Glam très importante.

Ce que j'ai pu remarquer c'est que les institutions veulent avoir en face une autre institution. Donc ici se présenter comme Wikimédia Canada, quasi chapitre du mouvememt Wikimédia sera un atout. Ensuite les institutions ont du mal à percevoir ce qu'est Wikipédia, que personne ne "la dirige", que s'est "auto-géré" par une communauté. Donc avoir en face une organisation, un chapitre Wikimédia, rassure les institutions culturelles, même s'ils confondent vite les deux.

Enfin dernier écueil comme vous avez pu vous en rendre compte, la licence libre et surtout le fait que la licence CC-BY-SA permettent la réutilisation commerciale, ce qui fait très peur aux institutions qui ont peur d'être dépossédé de leur patrimoine et privé de ressources liées à la commercialisation des photos, posters, etc. Là il faut être très très pédagogique. Leur expliquer que la licence on ne peut pas la changer mais que le risque pour eux par rapport à l'audience apportée est minime. Ils ont aussi toujours la possibilité de le mettre sous moyenne définition. Le cas du partenariat de Bundesarchiv avec WMDe est un excellent exemple. Le site des archives fédérales allemandes a plus que doublé sa fréquentation grâce aux 100 000 photos téléversées en moyenne def sur Commons et je crois a multiplié par 4 la vente de ses photos !.

Je vais expliquer votre besoin plus en détail au groupe Glam de wikimedia France et qu'il rentre en contact avec vous.

Cordialement. TCY 05:37, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

J'ai informé le groupe Glam de Wikimédia France. Ils ont une réunion Skype à laquelle je participerai pour le debriefing sur le Chapter Meeting jeudi. Je reparle de votre demande. TCY 04:35, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
Bonjour,
J'apporte mon point de vue, et tu aura sûrement d'autres avis après la réunion Skype.
Je suis d'accord avec Thierry sur le besoin de montrer qu'on est sérieux et un presque-chapter. Si WMCA peut être reconnu à but non-lucratif, c'est un plus mais je pense qu'on peut aussi faire sans (mais je ne connais pas du tout le Canada, un peu le Québec, mais pas du tout sa politique).
D'après la description que tu fais dans le mail, ça me rappelle le contexte français : les institutions ont peur des licences libres, veulent s'ouvrir sur le monde et sur l'internet, n'ont pas trop de moyens et pour certaines ont du mal à faire face à la conservation de leurs fonds. Les temps de réponses d'un partenariat à l'autre peuvent être assez différents, bien que généralement longs (2,5 ans pour le partenariat BnF, 1 ou 1,5 ans pour Toulouse (moins sûr pour ce dernier)).
Parfois, on peut avantageusement mettre en avant la puissance de la communauté (à estimer également par vous côté asso et côté wikimédiens canadiens/québécois), car on peut montrer qu'il y a beaucoup de petites mains prêtes à s'investir (potentiellement, si elles sont assez motivées).
Pour les ressources, tu peux regarder http://outreach.wikimedia.org (en particulier la section GLAM http://glamwiki.org ) , http://rencontres.wikimedia.fr , les GLAM-WIKI UK et Australie.
Seb35 06:21, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

namespaces vs. subpages[edit]

Hey. I noticed that the namespace "Meeting" has been created, but it is not being used right now, and I was wondering what the plan was for that. I think that we should switch the wiki from using subpages to namespaces for meetings pages and policy pages. With namespaces, we can easily view everything in a namespace on pages like Special:Recent changes or Special:New pages. We can also give each namespace its own header or edit warning. --Jeffery Nichols (Arctic.gnome) (talk) 19:45, 9 April 2011 (EDT)

Museum photos[edit]

This is a great project. It's just the kind of thing we should be promoting. Too bad I'm not in Montreal to take advantage. Eclecticology 18:56, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Merci Ray pour tes encouragements. Je me sens comme un zèbre dans un zoo de lions! C'est un gros projet pour un seul homme et j'ai besoin de votre appui. Pour l'instant, je suis seul dans ce projet et les emails que je reçois des autres membres des GLAM de la planète me découragent un peu. C'est tellement de travail, qu'on dirait que personne ne veut s'impliquer. En tout cas je ne lâche pas, demain j'ai rendez-vous avec la « Société des directeurs des musées montréalais » pour discuter de notre présence dans leurs musées... en tout cas, c'est pas facile et ça mange de l'énergie! Antaya 23:42, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Page Liste de tâches[edit]

Bonjour Antaya. J'ai traduit la page Liste de tâches, malheureusement je ne peux pas corriger le lien du menu français Participez, à gauche des pages du wiki. Il redirige actuellement vers la page anglaise. Je crois que c'est toi qui a les outils nécessaires pour corriger le lien. Merci à l'avance! JF Lepage

P.S. Merci aussi de supprimer la page Liste des tâches qui n'est maintenant qu'une simple redirection inutile. (erreur du lanceur!désolé!)

Salut JF, tout d'abord, un gros merci pour la traduction, ton aide est vraiment très appréciée! Ensuite, j'ai corrigé le lien du menu, puis j'ai effacé la redirection Liste des tâches. Merci encore et n'hésite pas à prendre des initiatives! Cordialement, Antaya 09:49, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Page un peu spéciale?[edit]

Salut Antaya. Un nouvel inscrit a créé cette page le 27 juillet. J'avoue ne pas saisir son utilité ici. Je viens de lui laisser un message dans sa page de discussion et j'attends sa réponse. Qu'en penses-tu? JF Lepage 22:31, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Mouais, c'est du spam... on essaie de régler ça. Merci! Antaya 09:56, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Amqui[edit]

Mon compte utilisateur : User:Amqui. Amqui 12:46, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Main page[edit]

Well done on the Montreal event. Wondering if in another week we can switch the Montreal event at the top of McMaster event that is coming up? You are if you still have the energy more than welcome to join us at McMaster. --Doc James 17:47, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

Participant subpages.[edit]

Do we really need subpages for listing the participants at Board meetings? These lists are and will always be small, hardly enough for separate pages. It would be just as easy to sign in on the meeting page itself. Eclecticology 01:30, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Link to commons works[edit]

Trientalis borealis, Québec (Matthieu Gauvain).JPG

Here is an example of a commons link. Alan.ca 23:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

Congrats ![edit]

Nice: [3]. Bon travail, lâche pas la patate ! Amqui 23:05, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

Time chart[edit]

Can you figure out why the time chart for Monday's meeting isn't working right? Eclecticology (talk) 06:57, 22 February 2013 (EST)

J'en ai aucune idée, les templates n'ont pas changé depuix 2011. La seule chose c'est peut-être Alan qui a fait des changement dans l'estomac du Wiki, c'est peut-être ce qui affecte EST... il semble être tombé à UTC. Bref, j'ai compensé le décalage. On va checker ça quand on va faire migrer le Wiki. Merci de me l'avoir flaggé! Bonne fin de semaine. Benoit Rochon (talk) 12:26, 24 February 2013 (EST)

MediaWiki talk:Common.css[edit]

See. :) Nemo bis (talk) 08:13, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

RftA and RfA[edit]

Hi Benoit Rochon, how can i make a request for translation administrator and administrator on this wiki? I didn't find page of request. I think helping for the translation on this wiki with my expertises of translation and also give a help for the deletion of the vandalism pages, block IPs spammer, delete spam etc.These tools will be useful for me.Can you please sysop me or grant me translation admis right? Regards --Grind24 (talk) 10:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Bonjour User:Grind24, concernant l'Extension:Translate, j'attends quelques réponses de l'équipe de Wikimedia Foundation avant de lancer quoi que ce soit. Ça ne devrait pas être très long. Merci pour votre intérêt, je vous reviens là-dessus. Cordialement, Benoit Rochon (talk) 18:04, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Bonjour, merci pour votre réponse, j'attendrai de vos nouvelles avant d'entreprendre de faire des modifications ou autres sur ce wiki. Considération -- Grind24 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Bonjour, Puis-je m'aintenant obtenir les droits d'administrateur et administrateur de traduction sur ce wiki, s'il vous plaît? Grind24 (talk) 11:09, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Sidebar i18n issues[edit]

Hello. Just a quick message to tell you that I've made some changes to make "About us/A propos" sidebar link work as expected, as you probably didn't get the emails regarding phab:T88843. Cheers, --Glaisher (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Demande de retrait[edit]

Salut Benoit. Je te demanderais de retirer mon accès admin & bureaucrate de ca.wikimedia.org. Ces accès ne me seront pas utiles. --Ernest-Mtl (talk) 19:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Did you get my e-mail?[edit]

What current 2016 or 2017 things are going on with Wikimedia Canada? Most of the talk and discussion links go to Wikipedia not Commons so I can't participate. Are you still active? Please reply here or on Commons WayneRay (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Grant[edit]

Hello Benoit. I was not certain if the Programs Committee is automatically informed of new grant requests or not, so out of an abundance of caution, I am letting you know I have filed: Grants/Requests/2018/Winnipeg Edit-A-Thon - Winnipeg Public Library. Please kindly let the Programs Committee know or disregard if they are automatically informed. Regards, Mkdw (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Mkdw, I take care of informing the Programs Committee of new grant request. They will review yours shortly. Thank you very much! JP Béland (WMCA) (talk) 11:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC) P.S. Benoit, I hope you don't mind me answering on your talk page.
Thank you JP Béland (WMCA). Mkdw (talk) 17:07, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello Benoit. Thank you so much for pre-approving my grant request. In reading the reimbursement process, I realize some steps may have been missed. The Google Sheet form was not sent to me and I did not complete it in advance of my expenses. Would it be possible to send the form and I will complete it as soon as possible? Thank you, Mkdw (talk) 19:16, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Good day Mkdw, the new process on the wiki is replacing the old process on Google Sheets so it is easier and more transparent. The Board just approved a new revised policy at their last meeting to reflect those changes and it will be updated on this page before the end of this week. You have done everything correctly so far. Please send me your receipts by email at jpbeland@wikimedia.ca. We will not be able to issue a reimbursement until the event is completed, because we require the "activity report" section to be filled. Please let us know if this is a problem for you. Thank you, JP Béland (WMCA) (talk) 13:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you JP Béland (WMCA). I will send you the receipts shortly. I understand the conditions of the Reimbursement Policy process and will file an activity report within 90 days of the completion of the event to be eligible for full reimbursement. Mkdw (talk) 15:23, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Mkdw, I confirm that I received your receipts. I wish you good luck for your event and I am looking forward to read your activity report. I have just published the revised Reimbursement Policy. Thank you again, JP Béland (WMCA) (talk) 16:18, 11 October 2018 (UTC)